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October 01, 2003

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Don

I'm a divorced missionary pastor. spent 14 yrs in ministry in Thailand. Had to leave the three boys there. Ouch.

Flesh from flesh...healing. That helps. Thanks. I am also interested in seeing the family as a social construct.."what God has put together." after the pieces were scattered

Warmly in Christ,

Rev. Dr. Donald S. Persons
Evanston, IL

GENE

TO BAD TOO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO IGNORE THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS JUST BECAUSE IT'S INCONVEINANT
FOR THEM, OR THEY JUST DON WANT TO DO WHAT HE SAYS. I THINK WE ARE SUPOSE TO PUT GOD FIRST IN OUR LIFE. ITS NOT ALWAYS EASY, AND SOME PEOPLE JUST MAKE IT HARD FOR THEMSELVES. LIFE ISN'T ALWAYS FAIR, DON'T FORGET THERE IS A LIFE AFTER THIS ONE.

DON'T TWIST GOD'S WORD TO FIT WHAT YOU LIKE. TRY TWISTING YOUR LIFE TO FIT GOD'S WORD. THE BIBLE IS NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND. SOMETIMES WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS HARD.

Mark

I am struck by the three dynamics of the text. At first, Jesus discloses that "Moses" (meaning the Torah that supposedly was give to Moses by God)actually accommodates human weakness. Then, the strict demands of fidelity and covenant seem not at all accommodating to human weakness. Then, Jesus is altogether accommodating to children, in some respects the weakest and most vulnerable to us all. Hmm....

Rev. Tony W. Bouwmeester

These days we do marriage all backwards. If we listen to Genesis as quoted by Jesus we find there are three steps toward marriage: Leave mother and father, cleave together, and become one.
Most couples I marry are now already living together. In that sense they may claim they have left mother and father, true in a geographical sense, most often disastrous in a psychological sense. There is usually a lot of cleaning up to do in the memories of the family of origin. Mother and Father need to let go. And often the couple needs to deal with a lot of stuff that happened in the past.
Cleaving together, an old Germanic word meaning being glued is for a good part the public ceremony where the couple make vows to each other and tell the world we belong together no one interfere.
Finally becoming one, the sexual act of loving procreation together.
If we would be honest most of us would have to admit that we have done this backwards. First becoming one, then the ceremony, with one of two of our children as ring-bearers and finally when we are in a good deal of trouble, listening to the voices of the family of origin we go for counseling, most times after the separation.
Is it any wonder marriage as we thought we knew it is in trouble?

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